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Waterboarding DICK Cheney …..

“If I waterboarded Dick Cheney, he would confess to murders.” — Former Navy SEAL and Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura

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I don’t know about you, but I have been sitting here in pure amazement, watching Dick Cheney giving his latest round of interviews  since coming out of his bunker about two weeks into the new Obama administration.  The purpose of his unprecedented media exposure?  Well, it certainly looks to me as if he preemptively wants to defend himself to charges of having ordered the torture of people or, as it is called in Cheney’s dictionary  ‘enhanced interrogation techniques.’

According to people who have been waterboarded, like Jesse Ventura as part of his Navy SEAL training, it is torture, because you experience the entire sensation of drowning, and if done incorrectly, you can actually die, even in practice sessions. In order for this torture to stop, people pretty much confess to anything they believe their torturers want to hear.  So, when the news came that several subjects had been waterboarded dozens of times, the logical conclusion can only be, that they up to that point hadn’t said and/or made up, what the torturers wanted to hear, i.e. a non-existing connection between Iraq and Al-Qaeda…  By the way, if you believe torture works and is effective, why then does somebody have to be waterboarded that many times without giving useful information?….  Just some food for thought…

Cheney’s assertion that torturing people has made us safer over the past seven and a half years, and now, that we stopped torturing people, America will be less safe, is borderline ridiculous.  First of all, it is worth mentioning that the worst terrorist attack on American soil with more than 3,000 people being killed, happened on Bush’s and Cheney’s watch, after disregarding warning signs and doing nothing in the summer prior to that event.  But leaving that little fact alone for a moment, I suggest that we have made more enemies by torturing and humiliating prisoners at Guantanamo and other locations, losing moral standing around the world, and most of all, by invading Iraq, a country not connected to 9/11.  So, by President Obama reversing all these horrible Bush/Cheney policies, there’s a good chance of us faring a lot better because we will have less enemies around the world.  Now, will there always be certain twisted people who wish America ill?  Yes, of course.  But it will be a lot more difficult for them to recruit people if America all of a sudden doesn’t look like this big demon anymore that has to be defeated.  Who knows, people in the Muslim world may actually end up taking care of the likes of Al-Qaeda themselves….

And for those chickenhawks like Dick Cheney, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, here’s an idea:  Waterboarding is torture; torture is illegal; and we have actually executed Japanese nationals after WWII who were found guilty of having participated in waterboarding and other methods of torture.  All of a sudden, Dick Cheney’s media tour, and his and his apologists’ insistence that waterboarding is not torture, makes so much sense, because if you follow that thought logically, the future may not look that rosy for people who participated in, or ordered torture…

Message to Dick Cheney and others who accuse those of us opposing torture as being terrorist appeasers:  After the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, the Clinton Administration brought the terrorists to justice within the legal parameters of our justice system, and they are serving their well deserved sentences as we speak, and by the way, we didn’t have another terrorist attack on American soil for the remainder of the Clinton Administration, about seven and a half years, either.  In contrast to that, not one of the people who were held at Guantanamo and other locations, especially the ones that have been tortured, have been brought to justice.  I think Andrew Sullivan with the Atlantic said it best:

“I want every last one of these murderous medieval morons fought with every legitimate weapon we have and brought to justice.  But you know what?  They haven’t been brought to justice, have they?” — Andrew Sullivan, The Atlantic

….. And as for  DICK  Cheney, here’s a suggestion from former President Bill Clinton:  “Cheney should stick to target practice.”     🙂


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